00:22:03 Michelle McCarthy: Thoughts - What scale does my school use? Are behavior grades mixed within the content grade? 00:22:43 Carli Cockrell: Such a good point! 00:28:16 Colet Bartow: I'm warming up my flamethrower: 100 point scales and traditional grading hurt kids, melt the ice cream base, and limit success. What do you think? 00:29:03 Marisa Graybill: The 4.0 Scale- that a 0/100 is really -6 points below 00:29:10 Mike Perry: I've been saying that for years but how do you get buy-in from teachers and parents? 00:29:21 Paul Andersen: I remember specific students that I punished in a similar way. Ugh. 00:29:34 Carli Cockrell: Sometimes we didn't know any better when we were grading this way. 00:29:40 Joe Steele: 0s do not show any level of learning. 00:29:45 Cathy Sessions: good points on traditional grading. Hard to break teachers of that type of grading 00:29:48 LeeAnn Burke: No longer using mean - grades need to be aggregated 00:30:01 Marisa Stewart: I believe it is overwhelming when a student is at a very low percentage---say 35%---the students do really ask, "why bother?" or "There's no way I can make it, so why try?" 00:30:10 Mike Perry: We all know we shouldn't be doing this but how do we break the cycle? 00:30:16 Michelle Halberg: Why do we still have homework and grade it? 00:30:21 Rob Watson: There are some teachers that come to this very naturally, ie: our CTE teachers already focus on performance vs. grades. 00:30:24 Charla Wetsch: The traditional grading of A-F doesn't allow for true demonstration of learning. Progress - Process - Product of learning. 00:30:45 Joe Steele: Take away the failing grade. We give incompletes versus Ds and Fs. 00:31:05 Marisa Stewart: I am curious as to how it translates into high school grading and how the stg carries over to the college transition with transcripts. 00:31:21 Barry Brahier: De-motivating struggling students is one cost. Another is de-motivating high-performing students who stop once they get an A. If the rubric includes "exceeds" there's no upper limit on their performance. 00:31:47 Mary Meehan: We utilize standards based grading, but have been "back sliding" in terms of our grading. I think part of the issue is averaging. This video is a great reminder of the need to move from averaging to mode. I look forward to the discussion of IC application of mode. 00:31:59 Rich Durgin: I love the phrase, “The consequence for not doing your work is…doing your work”. Easier said than done for teachers, but zeros let kids off the hook too fast. 00:32:36 Barry Brahier: For secondary schools, their performing and allied arts teachers are experts in SBG. 00:32:59 Mike Perry: Perfect opportunity to change what we are doing and grade like we should. Maybe Covid is actually invented by some educators to help us change education???? 00:34:44 Colet Bartow: I agree Mike Perry--not about being invented, but engaging in the best practices that help students learn, see evidence of learning, and focus on what matters. The status quo has less meaning and power in a crisis. 00:36:43 Cindy Glavin: As we put together our start of the year plan we need to define proficiency, does this make it easier to define that? 00:37:37 Colet Bartow: Hal mentioned this morning that educators need to tell the story--this is a change that we can start to message in advance of the school year. Help students and parents see this as part of how they can be successful in the coming school year. 00:40:18 Colet Bartow: Cindy, I think yes. We heard through the MT Learn Task force that parents and students need to see the learning expectations by quarter or semester at the beginning of the year so they can be better prepared to meet the mark. The grade level standards define the "proficient" level. 4pt rubrics that are shared with parents and students can empower them to self-assess and know their current status. 00:42:03 Kim Anderson: As a school with standards based grading for the last five years, I believe our staff did not have to adjust too much. The greatest struggle was for those who did not show up or do any work. These students received a no evidence grade. As we venture into this year, with some kids choosing online learning, how do we deal with non participation and promotion to the next grade level. 00:43:23 Colet Bartow: Kim, great question! Let's be sure to address that in Q&A. 00:43:30 Michelle McCarthy: Referring back to the opening presentation - Giving the students another "Chance to be Great!" 00:45:50 Joe Steele: My understanding of SBG is is that students demonstrate their understanding of the standards at a specific grade level competency.. If they don't show that competency, then they are not promoted. 00:45:55 Colet Bartow: Barry and I will present on the more technical aspects of embedding standards in student information systems at 9:30 am tomorrow--bring your tech director to that session for sure! 00:48:45 Colet Bartow: Assignments, assessments, activities, and evidence are all automatically aligned to the state standards. 00:50:23 Colet Bartow: This opens up the Black Box that has traditionally been how feedback and evidence of progress has appeared to parents and students. 00:51:48 Heather Jarrett: Colet, Just to clarify are these tools in IC prebuilt or do districts import these? i.e. rubrics 00:52:42 Colet Bartow: Rubrics have to be built--but let's ask Barry about what might be available. 00:53:14 Barry Brahier: Mode... https://kb.infinitecampus.com/help/grade-calculation-options-instruction#in-progress-proficiency-estimates-for-standards 00:56:31 Kim Anderson: Can you use decaying average in the grading with the progress monitoring tool? 00:56:42 School-Administrators of Montana: The link Barry posted is also on this session webpage under resources: https://saom.memberclicks.net/samai-session1b 00:57:09 Barry Brahier: Yes, decaying average can be used when grading standards. 00:57:23 Kim Anderson: Excellent! 00:57:31 Barry Brahier: Decaying avg is also described at the link provided. 01:03:04 Mike Perry: Oh my, are you asking me to change??? 01:03:33 Michelle McCarthy: No Mike - everyone but you :) 01:03:35 Colet Bartow: No Mike, we're asking you to lead the change with your staff. We will help! 01:04:46 Mike Perry: Sorry Colet, sarcasm just doesn't come across the same in a chat box. I was commenting in response to our teachers wondering if they have to throw out all their old stuff. 01:07:20 Colet Bartow: :) I totally read the sarcasm Mike! When designing communication to families and students to start the school year, spend some time on this topic. Be ready to tackle the questions. But also tackle the questions and issues with staff before sharing the message out to the community at large. Update your webpages and parent portals with the explanations and how to continue to ask questions. 01:08:31 Marisa Graybill: Link to presentation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-R1yCtYb7aY8EnY2vg4z9itWgnJmC5qk/view?usp=sharing 01:11:35 Colet Bartow: Colet Bartow - cbartow@mt.gov We're all working from home, so email is the best way to reach us. We'd be happy to Zoom or give you a call. 01:11:41 Cammie Knapp: Thank you to the presenters for all of the information and the links to the presentation. It is so very helpful to go back again and look at. 01:14:18 Paul Andersen: Thanks so much! 01:14:23 Kim Anderson: Thank you for bringing in Infinite Campus people. I did not know about the add on progress monitoring tool, I am excited to learn more. Ironically, we are tweaking our standards-based report cards today, so will get more information this afternoon. 01:14:29 Charla Wetsch: Thanks everyone! 01:15:01 Barry Brahier: Delighted to help! Go SBG!!! 01:15:06 Colet Bartow: Be well! Take care and be in touch! 01:15:08 Carli Cockrell: Thank you! 01:15:12 Stephanie Sondrol: Thank you all! 01:15:17 Cammie Knapp: Thank you. 01:15:27 Rob Watson: Thank you. That was great information! Rob 01:15:28 Sarah Hays: Thank you. 01:15:37 Dan Mills: Thank you! 01:15:53 Rich Durgin: Thank you!